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Welcome to the "we don't need any more wolves" in CA (or anywhere else!) group! Time to pile on and help people get educated!

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California Fish Game Commission gets $300,000 federal grant to study Gray Wolf !!

Started by Nancy Monchamp Oct 7, 2012. 0 Replies

California agrees to study protections for gray wolfJASON DEARENAssociated PressSAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- As California's lone gray wolf continues roaming the state's far northern wilds, officials…Continue

WOLVES cost Wisconsin taxpayers $1.5 Million in Attacks

Started by Nancy Monchamp Sep 8, 2012. 0 Replies

Wisconsin taxpayers have shelled out $1.5 million since 1985 to pay for damage inflicted by wolves on domestic animals in the state.Wolves cost taxpayers $1.5 million in attacksFalreporter.comWritten…Continue

BUTTE VALLEY (POP) PROTECT OUR PROPERTY

Started by Nancy Monchamp Sep 8, 2012. 0 Replies

                                        PLEASE  JOIN WITH                         BUTTE VALLEY  (POP)   PROTECT OUR PROPERTY        By writing a Letter of Opposition to Listing of the Gray Wolf to…Continue

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Comment by Nancy Monchamp on August 9, 2012 at 9:19pm

The Fish & Game made it's recommendation this week to the Commission to consider the gray wolf as a candidate species to be listed to the CESA. The Commission is scheduled to release it's final decision as to whether the gray wolf will receive a candidate status in October 2012.

 

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/nongame/wolf/docs/CDFG_wolf_petition...

Comment by Nancy Monchamp on June 10, 2012 at 7:48am

Yep, time to play offense and get ahead of the game!

Comment by Phillip Barker on June 2, 2012 at 9:14pm

Nancy, I wish I had confidence in the "coordination requirements", but what I have observed in my lifetime is that "coordinating" with "evil" only means that one might slow down the process, but will gradually lose in the end.  "Processes" established by the Fed and State agencies are designed to, step by step, wear down any opposition while pretending to be conciliatory.  

The "agencies", at the behest of their "enviro-globalist" supporters (and because most of their administration people were educated in "green-weenie institutions") will ask for more than they expect to get from the process of local/county level negotiations, but will settle for less, knowing that they will be coming back and asking for more, and will gradually achieve what they wanted in the beginning. 

There is no bargaining with these people. The only hope is for the States to take control of "public lands", and then for property owners to demand that the State respect private property rights, which includes the right to defend against encroachment by wolves, mountain lions, and any other predator.

Comment by Nancy Monchamp on June 2, 2012 at 8:47pm

Here's a great website that features the movie "Crying Wolf" a firstrate movie of the Canadian gray wolf introduction in Yellowstone,

Montana. Watch it free here ~ it's a real eyeopener.

http://wolfclash.com/

Comment by Nancy Monchamp on June 2, 2012 at 8:34pm

Phillip, You called that right .  Farmers and Ranchers here in Modoc,Siskiyou are getting hit pretty hard in all directions, Water, wolves,public lands road-less areas ~ seems to be an all out war from NGO's and public agencies.

  One ray of light is that counties are starting to realize the strenghth in County "coordination" that is required by law between local government and federal, state agencies.    Might just be the tool that could save us here at the county level.  Time will tell.

Comment by Phillip Barker on June 2, 2012 at 10:01am

The notion that wolves needed to be re-introduced in the "lower 48" and protected, was born in the extremes of the "religion of environmentalism".  This program, along with all of the other wildlife management plans targets private property ownership by design. The goal is not protection of wolves, spotted owls, or any other critter listed as threatened; the goal is to ultimately remove people from the land.  The animal/plant species are simply the means by which to accomplish this.

The ability of the Federal Government to do any of these things originates in its unconstitutional claim to "public lands". This is the issue, but it is a tough one to fight.  The Sagebrush Rebellion(s) have not been very successful.

The government could not re-introduce wolves onto private property, but it can impose upon private property by using the backdoor of its "public land" claims. It is not only Federally protected wolves with which ranchers must contend, but also State wildlife laws.  In Kalifornia we have the mountain lion depredation to deal with, and while they are not an endangered species, they are protected by State law.

Ultimately, the issue will have to be taken care of by the individuals affected.  The "legal procedures" for dealing with it are a losing proposition.  So, the "shoot, shovel, and shut up" method will have to suffice. 

 

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